p { margin-bottom: 0.1in; direction: ltr; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); line-height: 120%; widows: 2; orphans: 2; }p.western { font-family: “Calibri”,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; }p.cjk { font-family: “Calibri”,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; }p.ctl { font-family: “Times New Roman”,serif; font-size: 11pt; This essay is intended to consider that there may be Godly reasons why or what people can be for eternity in relation to the Lord and why there may be different courses necessary for people with and without the Lord as their Savior. I will consider that God may confer predestination through retro-causality upon some of the lost-to-sin human constituency and additional difficult-to-understand problems of the criterion of being while living within a temporal order. Predestination and determinism are not incompatible with human freedom of choice.
I suppose that the human condition of being having started in original sin means that all people still have some hardness of heart and moral failure. Without the direct grace of God none would be saved. The question is why God rescues anyone from the state of original sin? I guess that if God wants anyone to exist besides Himself and God is implicitly perfect the imperfect creatures will need to be saved through their relationship to the Son Jesus Christ. Jesus covers the sin with His perfection.
Maybe God likes having less than perfect sentient beings existing as some sort of pluralistic array within His monism yet can’t tolerate imperfection unless it is compartmentalized; limited like explosion in an internal combustion engine to a somewhat useful application.. Creatures exist as some sort of function of the Omnipotent God who actualizes all things in theory and fact even if some are within in a contingent and potential state of realized hypothesis. There may be value in having some human beings exist. More may be better.
For those that have some qualification for God’s use there seems to be a good working-retirement plan for eternity with better prospects than social security.
In some respects the problem of why some people are saved and others chose to chase after pleasure mirages instead of moral perfection is comparable to why some just things can be eternal and not everything. Why don’t temporal things like stars or polar ice caps exist forever-why does anything decay or change? As the joke goes, death and temporality make way for more and new things. Seriously though, temporal being is a form of making things exist with more degrees of freedom than if they existed forever. Imagine if God made real and permanent everything he ever thought of in some concrete form-it would be the worst hoarding collection of stuff ever invented. There would be Universe after Universe to an infinite extent full of junk piled in. A lot of eternity would be spent arranging the stuff in nice neat rows or thrown in like junk with no hope of a garage sale to clear out a few thousand Universes of the stuff occasionally. Temporality may be some nice neat way of ordering concepts that are real yet don’t stay around past their expiration date. Expiration dates allow more products to exist than if every product created had to exist eternally. Imagine a container of milk that existed forever, or maybe a loaf of bread without refrigeration? How would one have bacteria exist without meat that rots and vice versa?
Jesus said that in heaven people neither marry nor are given in marriage (not only because of their relationship to God I would think or because of that especially). It is also a part of their eternal nature transformed into a body without temporal characteristics-and I find that hard to imagine. A temporal body’s form is that adapted specifically to a given physical niche. Trees grow tall for instance, yet are limited in height for one reason because the water transport ‘veins’ going up break down under the force of gravity at a certain height. People have grown with similar constraints or definitions that in eternity would not be required or useful maybe. A human spirit might be adapted to a different spiritual presentation.
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PREDESTINED FOR WHAT? BY STEVE FINNELL
Are men predestined? Yes, but predestined for what?
Those who, believe that Jesus is the Christ, are predestined for salvation.
Men are not predestined by God “to believe” in order that they may be saved. All men have free-will to believe or to reject Jesus as the Christ.
Ephesians 1:11-14 also we have obtained an inheritance, having been predestined according to His purpose who works all things after the counsel of His will, 12 to the end that we who were the first to hope in Christ would be to the praise of His glory. 13 In Him, you also, after listening to the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation—having also believed, you were sealed in Him with the Holy Spirit of promise, 14 who is given as a pledge of our inheritance, with a view to the redemption of God's own possession, to the praise of His glory.
The Ephesians were sealed with the Holy Spirit because they believed; not because they were preselected “to believe” in order to be saved.
DOES THE PARABLE OF THE SOWER TEACH PRESELECTION FOR SALVATION? No, it does not!
Luke 8:11 “Now the parable is this: the seed is the word of God.
Luke 8:12 Those beside the road are those who have heard; then the devil comes and takes away the word from their heart, so that they will not believe and be saved.
Did God send the devil to take the word from their heart because He did not preselect them for salvation? Of course not. Neither did God send the devil to deceive Eve, so Adam and Eve would sin against Him.
Luke 8:13 Those on the rocky soil are those who, when they hear, receive the word with joy; and these have no firm root; they believe for a while, and in time of temptation fall away.
Does God let some believe for a while; then cause them to fall away because He did not preselect them for salvation? No, He does not.
Luke 8:14 The seed which fell among the thorns, these are the ones have have heard , and as they go on their way they are choked with worries and riches and pleasures of this life, and bring no fruit to maturity.
Is it logical that God would have the gospel preached to those He has already selected to burn in hell?
8:15 But the seed in the good soil, these are the ones who have heard the word in an honest and good heart, hold fast, and bear fruit with perseverance.
Salvation is achieved by an honest and good heart. God does preselect babies in the womb and transplant a good an honest heart in them, so they might be saved.
ALL MEN HAVE THE FREE-WILL TO JOIN “THE PREDESTINED CLUB.”
ALL THOSE WHO BELIEVE HAVE BEEN PREDESTINED FOR SALVATION.
GOD DOES NOT PRESELECT “THE PREDESTINED.”
ALL MEN HAVE THE FREE-WILL TO JOIN “THE PREDESTINED CLUB FOR SALVATION!”
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Predestination is a somewhat amorphous topic. On good days I understand more of it than on others. predestination might be regarded as a function of determinism. Since God is omnipotent and omniscient the temporal Universe is necessarily predestined to run its course, and of course God's purpose was not to have it as some sort of contingent, random fluke of luck. Instead, in accord with His physical boundaries determining the force structure and thermodynamic composition of the steady state-entanglement that comprises mass in Universe 1 He foreknew each and every detail and connection amidst particles and even human will.
All know God yet some with false consciousness forget who He is. All are called and few are chosen. The kingdom of God is within-these are difficult paradigms yet consistent with the omnipotent Creator who appeared as the Son that people might have a relationship personally with God.
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